[winswitch] Difficulty installing/running on Mac OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
Antoine Martin
antoine at nagafix.co.uk
Thu Aug 8 03:22:31 BST 2013
On 08/08/13 00:41, Arthur Zey wrote:
> Antoine:
>
> Please run in debug mode to get more info in the logs (and make
> sure no passwords are in them), preferably using:
> winswitch_applet --debug-mode
>
>
> Unfortunately, I was unable to start in debug mode, as you suggested.
> I managed to find the winswitch_applet binary, but I got an error when
> executing:
>
(snip)
> I'm afraid I'm not very good at figuring out what/how command line
> stuff works in Mac OS.
Yes, OSX can make even the simplest things difficult to find.
We have to use a wrapper script in Contents/MacOS, this is the one you want.
(assuming it doesn't strip command line arguments - I haven't checked)
>
> However, I did edit the ~/.winswitch/client/client.conf file, and I
> set "debug_mode=True" (changing it from "debug_mode=False"), and
> somehow, that made the menu bar appear when I gave the dock icon focus.
I do not understand why debugging would have that sort of impact.
It must be something else.
> I switched it back to "False", and the menu still works! (It's a
> little annoying to have to deal with a dock icon instead of something
> in my "system tray", but I'll live.) I managed to move a "Calculator"
> window from my Ubuntu computer at home to my Mac OS laptop at work, so
> it looks like I'm in business. Now I just have to install Pidgin,
> blah, blah, blah, on the Ubuntu computer at home, and get used to the
> workflow of connecting to that from my various computers.
>
> Thanks for your help, even if it ended up helping me only accidentally!
Cheers
Antoine
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Arthur Zey
> Arthur at DeltaWerx.com <mailto:Arthur at DeltaWerx.com>
> 213-915-6442
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Antoine Martin <antoine at nagafix.co.uk
> <mailto:antoine at nagafix.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> On 07/08/13 12:45, Arthur Zey wrote:
>>
>> *The* menu, since there is only one on OSX, that big thing
>> that always sits at the top left of your screen!
>>
>>
>> I thought that might be what you meant, but there's nothing there.
> Ah :(
>
>>
>> on OSX and Linux:
>> .winswitch/
>>
>>
>> A gzipped copy of that directory, which includes a few log files,
>> is available
>> here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wog3aqyn2epn5z1/winswitch.tar.gz
> Please run in debug mode to get more info in the logs (and make
> sure no passwords are in them), preferably using:
> winswitch_applet --debug-mode
> or by setting debug=on in the applet config file.
>>
>> I noticed a few references to a VirtualBox virtual machine that I
>> have installed (although I never told Windows-Switch about it,
>> nor was the VM running at any point during or after the
>> installation). I wonder if that could be causing some trouble.
>> Could connected VNC sessions be messing with the installation? I
>> also saw a reference to that.
> The built-in server detected your virtualbox sessions and will
> expose them to *clients* connected to this machine as a *server*.
> This should not interfere with anything, but just in case you can
> disable it in the config file:
> server/protocols/virtualbox.conf
> or by running with:
> --without-virtualbox
>
>>
>> Let me know where the right place would be to file a ticket if
>> neither you nor anybody else on this thread can help with the
>> log/config files.
> http://winswitch.org/trac/
>
> Cheers
> Antoine
>
>>
>> Thank you yet again!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Arthur Zey
>> Arthur at DeltaWerx.com <mailto:Arthur at DeltaWerx.com>
>> 213-915-6442 <tel:213-915-6442>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Antoine Martin
>> <antoine at nagafix.co.uk <mailto:antoine at nagafix.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/08/13 12:13, Arthur Zey wrote:
>>> Antoine, thank you for your fast response!
>>>
>>> You should install the mDNS bits, without those you will
>>> have to connect to your server by IP address which is
>>> tedious (and often changes between restarts).
>>> With mdns correctly installed, your client will see your
>>> server appear on the network and connect to it
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not worried about that--I have a dynamic DNS updater on
>>> my router, a static local IP address, and appropriate port
>>> forwarding (already configured for SSH on an alternative port).
>>>
>>> Do you see anything in the global application menu?
>>> There should be options there for connecting to servers
>>> and starting apps.
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive me, but what is the "global application menu"? I
>>> have not come across that yet. (The dock icon has no
>>> application-specific options, left- or right-clicking.)
>> *The* menu, since there is only one on OSX, that big thing
>> that always sits at the top left of your screen!
>>
>>>
>>> You may want to file a ticket and add your log files.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the best way to do that. Where are the log files, and
>>> how can I access them?
>> on OSX and Linux:
>> .winswitch/
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for however you can help.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Arthur Zey
>>> Arthur at DeltaWerx.com <mailto:Arthur at DeltaWerx.com>
>>> 213-915-6442 <tel:213-915-6442>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Antoine Martin
>>> <antoine at nagafix.co.uk <mailto:antoine at nagafix.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/08/13 06:00, Arthur Zey wrote:
>>>
>>> Please forgive the elementary nature of this
>>> question, but most of my
>>> previous experience has been in Windows, and only
>>> about a year ago have I
>>> started really getting into Linux (Ubuntu), and only
>>> just within the last
>>> few weeks have I consistently started using a Mac as
>>> my primary computer.
>>>
>>> I've installed Windows-Switch on my Ubuntu 13.04
>>> machine according to the
>>> instructions here:
>>> https://winswitch.org/downloads/debian-repository.html?dist_select=raring
>>>
>>> I followed up by running "sudo apt-get install xpra
>>> python-wimpiggy" (since
>>> "sudo apt-get upgrade" indicated that those packages
>>> could be upgraded, but
>>> it wouldn't do it automatically) before launching
>>> Windows-Switch from the
>>> application launcher (which I assume I won't have to
>>> do in the future,
>>> since it'll launch automatically on startup, right?),
>>>
>>> It should, though desktop environment changes can break
>>> things.
>>> (and Ubuntu in particular)
>>>
>>> and it went through
>>> the initial run process. I got a few error messages
>>> (something about having
>>> to do SSH tunneling and something about what I think
>>> was related to
>>> automatic discovery of clients), but I'm not worried
>>> about that quite yet.
>>>
>>> You should install the mDNS bits, without those you will
>>> have to connect to your server by IP address which is
>>> tedious (and often changes between restarts).
>>> With mdns correctly installed, your client will see your
>>> server appear on the network and connect to it
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>> (Eventually, the program I expect to be using
>>> through this is Pidgin, but I
>>> don't have that up and running on this computer
>>> yet.) The point is that,
>>> unlike what I'll describe below on the Mac, the
>>> Ubuntu machine properly
>>> places a Windows-Switch icon in the Ubuntu
>>> equivalent of a system tray, as
>>> pictured here:
>>> https://winswitch.org/documentation/start.html
>>>
>>> The problem I'm having is on my primary laptop
>>> (which I ultimately want to
>>> display the Pidgin process). I followed the
>>> instructions for Intel-based
>>> Macs here: http://winswitch.org/downloads/
>>>
>>> (My computer is a MacBook Pro Retina, running 10.8.4
>>> on a 2.4 GHz Intel
>>> Core i7--is there any other information that would
>>> be diagnostically
>>> relevant?)
>>>
>>> That should be enough.
>>>
>>> During the installation, I dragged the icon into the
>>> Applications folder,
>>> then launched it. After clicking "Open" on the
>>> obligatory
>>> are-you-sure-because-this-was-downloaded-from-the-interwebs!
>>> message, it
>>> put an icon on my dock and briefly displayed a
>>> notification saying that it
>>> was setting some stuff up for first use (like it did
>>> on the Ubuntu
>>> machine). However, it does not create an icon in my
>>> "system tray", as I
>>> expected (and as is pictured here:
>>> https://winswitch.org/documentation/start.html ).
>>>
>>> Those screenshots are out of date for OSX, newer
>>> versions use the global menu to interact with the
>>> application instead of a tray icon.
>>>
>>> Instead, the dock icon
>>> remains with a little light underneath it indicating
>>> that it's currently
>>> running. Clicking on the dock icon for Window-Switch
>>> does nothing, nor does
>>> it have any windows associated with it.
>>>
>>> Do you see anything in the global application menu?
>>> There should be options there for connecting to servers
>>> and starting apps.
>>>
>>> Quitting and restarting the process
>>> makes no difference; neither does uninstalling and
>>> reinstalling it (which,
>>> on a Mac, I understand is accomplished merely by
>>> sending the item to Trash
>>> from the Applications folder, then re-copying it
>>> from the downloaded image).
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> Could anyone shed some light and help me figure this
>>> out, please?
>>>
>>> I haven't tested on OSX for a while.
>>> You may want to file a ticket and add your log files.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you so very much in advance!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Arthur Zey
>>> Arthur at DeltaWerx.com <mailto:Arthur at DeltaWerx.com>
>>> 213-915-6442 <tel:213-915-6442>
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