From chris0wj at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 13:57:25 2010 From: chris0wj at gmail.com (Chris Wj) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:57:25 -0400 Subject: [shifter-users] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome Message-ID: Hi all. This e-mail is being sent to 2 mailing lists, which could post a problem for reply-to-all; so choose the reply carefully. Nonetheless, I use both of these applications and I had the idea that together, they would be absolutely awesome. Check out the descriptions below... *Shifter* Window Shifter is a tool which allows you to move applications between networked computers, the windows appear where you need them, as they were. You no longer need to save and send documents to move them around, simply move the view of the application to the machine where you need it. http://shifter.devloop.org.uk/ *Synergy-Plus* *Synergy+* (synergy-plus) lets you easily share a single mouse and keyboard between multiple computers with different operating systems, without special hardware. All you need is a LAN connection. It's intended for users with multiple computers, where each system uses its own display. It's a little like having a 2nd or a 3rd desktop... http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ My idea is to be able to move the mouse between computers using Synergy while dragging windows governed by Shifter. Synergy finds out that the mouse control should switch to the other computer and Shifter 'teleports' the window/application under the mouse to the opposite computer. -Chris From nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 15:56:03 2010 From: nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com (Nick Bolton) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:56:03 +0100 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Might be interesting to see if we can easily "fuse" the applications together, or maybe create a plugin. I believe we might need to use IPC to communicate between the two. The functionality should certainly be optional. However, we're busy re-shuffling our project management, so we'd have to leave this to someone else. Nick On 27 June 2010 13:57, Chris Wj wrote: > Hi all. This e-mail is being sent to 2 mailing lists, which could post a > problem for reply-to-all; so choose the reply carefully. Nonetheless, I use > both of these applications and I had the idea that together, they would be > absolutely awesome. Check out the descriptions below... > > Shifter > Window Shifter is a tool which allows you to move applications between > networked computers, the windows appear where you need them, as they were. > You no longer need to save and send documents to move them around, simply > move the view of the application to the machine where you need it. > http://shifter.devloop.org.uk/ > > Synergy-Plus > Synergy+ (synergy-plus) lets you easily share a single mouse and keyboard > between multiple computers with different operating systems, without special > hardware. All you need is a LAN connection. It's intended for users with > multiple computers, where each system uses its own display. It's a little > like having a 2nd or a 3rd desktop... > http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ > > > My idea is to be able to move the mouse between computers using Synergy > while dragging windows governed by Shifter. Synergy finds out that the mouse > control should switch to the other computer and Shifter 'teleports' the > window/application under the mouse to the opposite computer. > > -Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "synergy-plus" group. > To post to this group, send email to synergy-plus at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > synergy-plus+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/synergy-plus?hl=en. > From antoine at nagafix.co.uk Sun Jun 27 19:32:45 2010 From: antoine at nagafix.co.uk (Antoine Martin) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:32:45 +0700 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> On 06/27/2010 09:56 PM, Nick Bolton wrote: > Might be interesting to see if we can easily "fuse" the applications > together, or maybe create a plugin. I believe we might need to use IPC > to communicate between the two. The functionality should certainly be > optional. Absolutely, there is no guarantee that either end will run the shifter client, or that they support the required protocol (NX, VNC, xpra,...) I don't see any major difficulty coming from this end: the client already listens on a local socket (named pipe on win32) so that it can receive commands from file managers and such. If synergy+ can pass the pid of the process owning the window being moved around then it should be easy, otherwise a bit harder. Where would I look for documentation on writing plugins? Antoine > However, we're busy re-shuffling our project management, so we'd have > to leave this to someone else. > > Nick > > On 27 June 2010 13:57, Chris Wj wrote: >> Hi all. This e-mail is being sent to 2 mailing lists, which could post a >> problem for reply-to-all; so choose the reply carefully. Nonetheless, I use >> both of these applications and I had the idea that together, they would be >> absolutely awesome. Check out the descriptions below... >> >> Shifter >> Window Shifter is a tool which allows you to move applications between >> networked computers, the windows appear where you need them, as they were. >> You no longer need to save and send documents to move them around, simply >> move the view of the application to the machine where you need it. >> http://shifter.devloop.org.uk/ >> >> Synergy-Plus >> Synergy+ (synergy-plus) lets you easily share a single mouse and keyboard >> between multiple computers with different operating systems, without special >> hardware. All you need is a LAN connection. It's intended for users with >> multiple computers, where each system uses its own display. It's a little >> like having a 2nd or a 3rd desktop... >> http://code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ >> >> >> My idea is to be able to move the mouse between computers using Synergy >> while dragging windows governed by Shifter. Synergy finds out that the mouse >> control should switch to the other computer and Shifter 'teleports' the >> window/application under the mouse to the opposite computer. >> >> -Chris >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "synergy-plus" group. >> To post to this group, send email to synergy-plus at googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> synergy-plus+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/synergy-plus?hl=en. >> > _______________________________________________ > shifter-users mailing list > shifter-users at lists.devloop.org.uk > http://lists.devloop.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/shifter-users From nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 19:35:30 2010 From: nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com (Nick Bolton) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:35:30 +0100 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> References: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> Message-ID: On 27 June 2010 19:32, Antoine Martin wrote: > Where would I look for documentation on writing plugins? Sadly Synergy+ does not currently have a plugin platform. But if the demand is high enough, I don't see why we can't introduce this as a new feature. That said, I think we're talking in terms of months and years rather than weeks. Nick From antoine at nagafix.co.uk Sun Jun 27 20:27:01 2010 From: antoine at nagafix.co.uk (Antoine Martin) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:27:01 +0700 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: References: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> Message-ID: <4C27A605.7090905@nagafix.co.uk> On 06/28/2010 01:35 AM, Nick Bolton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 19:32, Antoine Martin wrote: >> Where would I look for documentation on writing plugins? > > Sadly Synergy+ does not currently have a plugin platform. But if the > demand is high enough, I don't see why we can't introduce this as a > new feature. That's a shame. Please, do let me know (if) when that happens. Considering a different approach, how hard would it be to simply execute a command when dragging a window to the edge? (does synergy even know or care if a window is being dragged whilst the edge is reached?) Antoine > > That said, I think we're talking in terms of months and years rather than weeks. > > Nick From nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 20:34:53 2010 From: nick.bolton.uk at gmail.com (Nick Bolton) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:34:53 +0100 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: <4C27A605.7090905@nagafix.co.uk> References: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> <4C27A605.7090905@nagafix.co.uk> Message-ID: On 27 June 2010 20:27, Antoine Martin wrote: > Considering a different approach, how hard would it be to simply execute > a command when dragging a window to the edge? > (does synergy even know or care if a window is being dragged whilst the > edge is reached?) Hmm, I'd guess that it is not aware. However, I believe that the hook (on Windows anyway) will effectively intercept window messages, and ignore ones that it doesn't care about. I have a feeling that WM_MOVING could be intercepted. Just thinking out loud though. Nick From bostonvaulter at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 22:52:26 2010 From: bostonvaulter at gmail.com (Jason Axelson) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:52:26 -1000 Subject: [shifter-users] [synergy-plus] Shifter + Synergy could be awesome In-Reply-To: References: <4C27994D.3060409@nagafix.co.uk> <4C27A605.7090905@nagafix.co.uk> Message-ID: There's been some talk about running a script when switching monitors. I think this would be very handy myself, and would be something I am personally interested in. Heres's the relevant discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/synergy-plus/browse_thread/thread/3adbb16c8e8bfb8c/73234b28a43d2476 So I've decided to open feature request for it: But is opening new issues disabled? It's not working for me, here's what I would have wrote: > What is the problem you wish to solve? Users are currently unable to run a script when changing screens > What is your new feature idea? Allow users to run a script when they change screens > Is there already a less convenient way? Monitor the logs for certain strings that indicate a screen change > How useful would the feature be to others? Very useful for some people Jason On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Nick Bolton wrote: > On 27 June 2010 20:27, Antoine Martin wrote: >> Considering a different approach, how hard would it be to simply execute >> a command when dragging a window to the edge? >> (does synergy even know or care if a window is being dragged whilst the >> edge is reached?) > > Hmm, I'd guess that it is not aware. However, I believe that the hook > (on Windows anyway) will effectively intercept window messages, and > ignore ones that it doesn't care about. I have a feeling that > WM_MOVING could be intercepted. > > Just thinking out loud though. > > Nick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "synergy-plus" group. > To post to this group, send email to synergy-plus at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to synergy-plus+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/synergy-plus?hl=en. > >